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let's start with the chuck hagel filibuster situation. senator mitch mcconnell said, i think the president is entitled to an up or down. that is simple majority vote on nominations, both to his cabinet and to the executive branch and also to the judiciary, clearly the republicans have somewhat changed their tune on the that. but if we do see, as we're seeing now, a sort of filibuster on nominees is this going to be the new normal now in washington? >> the consistency is not a virtue any longer, but what i'm surprised about with respect to the senate actions here, i serve there had the last 189 years, left two years ago, i served with chuck hagel, he served there 12 years and i'm very surprised that people who served with him in his own caucus, he caucused with them every week, they know him as a squad leader and infantry man who was twice wounded, he has two purple hearts by the way. they're suggesting somehow he's unworthy? it's unbelievable to me, every time you think this is sort of the nth degree of gridlock, i hope you dpind enough r
let's start with the chuck hagel filibuster situation. senator mitch mcconnell said, i think the president is entitled to an up or down. that is simple majority vote on nominations, both to his cabinet and to the executive branch and also to the judiciary, clearly the republicans have somewhat changed their tune on the that. but if we do see, as we're seeing now, a sort of filibuster on nominees is this going to be the new normal now in washington? >> the consistency is not a virtue any...
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the fact is that two reasons that senators are opposing hagel. one is lindsay graham, and senator iaot have real questions about benghazi, and the other hand senator has questions about hagel. both of those together, are causing real problem, and a lot of the wounded on hagel are self inflicted. lou: and waleed as you read that letter from white house revealing, that the president did no contact anyone in the libyan government, that he relied upon his secretary of state, who has said she had no role in the days affairs. what is your reaction? >> well, look, lou, we really don't have the big picture in details about what happened in benghazi. i keep repeating that the key point is, what was the perception of the administration of the threat existing? did they consider that our location in be benghazi is surrounded by 10 jihadi training centers and had taken all procedures or n? this would have to be answered. but is probably now the more important is statement by senator harry reid, in a time o war, in a time of threat against american, precisely
the fact is that two reasons that senators are opposing hagel. one is lindsay graham, and senator iaot have real questions about benghazi, and the other hand senator has questions about hagel. both of those together, are causing real problem, and a lot of the wounded on hagel are self inflicted. lou: and waleed as you read that letter from white house revealing, that the president did no contact anyone in the libyan government, that he relied upon his secretary of state, who has said she had no...
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hagel. and that's because 23 senate republicans are demanding that chuck hagel provide specific financial information about private corporations where he has served on the board. not information about the money he made but information about the corporations themselves. the senators are also demanding that chuck hagel give them copies of every speech he has made in the past five years, including notes you utilized for preparation or in giving the remarks, to which former senator hagel has responded, "your request for financial information regarding certain private corporate and non-profit entities is not mine to give. as i board member i have a fiduciary duty that includes the obligation to maintain the confidentiality of non-public corporate information. mr. hagel said "the contract for these stipulates that they are off the record, private and not recorded." quoting from buzzfeed's scoop on this, "according to a senior republican aide close to the confirmation process, senators are not reac
hagel. and that's because 23 senate republicans are demanding that chuck hagel provide specific financial information about private corporations where he has served on the board. not information about the money he made but information about the corporations themselves. the senators are also demanding that chuck hagel give them copies of every speech he has made in the past five years, including notes you utilized for preparation or in giving the remarks, to which former senator hagel has...
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one of hagel's former republican colleagues, indiana's dick lugar, said tuesday it's hagel's politics, not his policy, that got him into trouble. >> senator hagel's main transgression is that he is a republican. who has questioned policies that are sacred among most conservative senators. the intensity of opposition that senator hagel is encountering is grounded in the resentments of some conservatives inside and outside the senate who regard his independent thinking as political blasphemy for which he should not be rewarded. >> that wasn't all lugar had to say. in his first major speech since leaving the u.s. senate the long-time senator said conservatives and the media have combined to bring any hope for legislating to a grinding halt. >> a no compromise vision of conservatism may score points with cob servetive talk show hosts and campaign givers. but in a democracy leadership requires an office holder to compromise, to prioritize, and sometimes to reverse one's self. perhaps the most potent force driving partisanship is the rise of a massive industry that makes money off of politi
one of hagel's former republican colleagues, indiana's dick lugar, said tuesday it's hagel's politics, not his policy, that got him into trouble. >> senator hagel's main transgression is that he is a republican. who has questioned policies that are sacred among most conservative senators. the intensity of opposition that senator hagel is encountering is grounded in the resentments of some conservatives inside and outside the senate who regard his independent thinking as political...
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there are 18 americans who will be given the medal. >>> plus, blocking hagel. the republicans have left the republican without his choice for defense secretary. that's next. and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. more "likes." more tweets. so, beginning today, my son brock and his whole team will be our new senior social media strategists. any questions? since we make radiator valves wouldn't it be better if we just let fedex help us to expand to new markets? hmm gotta admit that's better than a few "likes." i don't have the door code. who's that? he won a contest online to be ceo for the day. how am i supposed to run a business here
there are 18 americans who will be given the medal. >>> plus, blocking hagel. the republicans have left the republican without his choice for defense secretary. that's next. and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the...
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right now, chuck hagel in limbo. >> okay. are you right to milwaukee a distinction, we don't have a new secretary of defense. leon pan 80 is not going anywhere until this is over. >> no, no. very active. >> and here is the reaction by harry reid to the filibuster. let's listen. >> the filibuster of senator hag hagel's nomination is unprecedenced. i repeat never in the history of our country has a secretary of defense nominee been filibustered. never, ever. >> has this ever happened before? anything similar? or are we talking about the details to secretary of defense nominees? >> it is unpress denned for a secretary of defense nominee. the closest example to a cabinet-level position being filibustered or attempted to be filibustered is steven johnson, epa secretary under president bush. some tried to filibuster him, they couldn't get enough votes. that wasn't technically a cabinet-level position or an actual cabinet position this is actually the first time that a cabinet secretary has been filibustered, and republicans don't w
right now, chuck hagel in limbo. >> okay. are you right to milwaukee a distinction, we don't have a new secretary of defense. leon pan 80 is not going anywhere until this is over. >> no, no. very active. >> and here is the reaction by harry reid to the filibuster. let's listen. >> the filibuster of senator hag hagel's nomination is unprecedenced. i repeat never in the history of our country has a secretary of defense nominee been filibustered. never, ever. >> has...
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. >>> i'm going to go chuck hagel when i finish here and say i'm sorry, sorry this has happened. i'm sorry for the president. i'm sorry for the country and i'm sorry for you, but we're not going to give up on you. >> democrats vowing to stand by their man, even as republicans delivered a sharp rebuke to fellow republican chuck hagel this week in his bid to become defense secretary. joining me now is republican senator john barrasso from wyoming. senator, thanks for being here. >> thank you, candy. >> something caught our eye that senator mccain said in explaining the republican -- part of the republican resistance to hagel in which he says it goes back to there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was a republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly, at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover and said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war which is nonsense and was very anti his own party and people. people don't forget that. is this a revenge vote? mean, this seems -- i understand that people, a lot of republica
. >>> i'm going to go chuck hagel when i finish here and say i'm sorry, sorry this has happened. i'm sorry for the president. i'm sorry for the country and i'm sorry for you, but we're not going to give up on you. >> democrats vowing to stand by their man, even as republicans delivered a sharp rebuke to fellow republican chuck hagel this week in his bid to become defense secretary. joining me now is republican senator john barrasso from wyoming. senator, thanks for being here....
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were you surprised by the low energy of chuck hagel today on the stand? many people felt he was coached by whoever coached barack obama on his first debate. >> well, you know it reminded me of the joke of the corpse at the wake, that is not to get in the way of drinking and remembering. this is a strange combination of meet the parents and a job interfere where you got to be sure to be unobjectionable, and you have to work with these same people who are berating you to make your tenture a success and you know these hearings are more about them getting a sound bite for their district back home with their interests or their nuclear weapons plan in it, and they're unfortunately not so much about educating anybody on serious issues that we face. so from that perspective senator hagel's demeanor was entirely understandable, and i can't even begin to imagine how incredibly it mustfrustrating it must have been for him. heather hurlburt and david schuster. be will he be confirmed? >> he'll be confirmed. >> john: welcome back to "viewpoint." and its time for the t
were you surprised by the low energy of chuck hagel today on the stand? many people felt he was coached by whoever coached barack obama on his first debate. >> well, you know it reminded me of the joke of the corpse at the wake, that is not to get in the way of drinking and remembering. this is a strange combination of meet the parents and a job interfere where you got to be sure to be unobjectionable, and you have to work with these same people who are berating you to make your tenture a...
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we've got hagel on lockdown, the republicans filibustering chuck hagel. >> i'm going to hit you and keep hitting you absolutely. you're fought going to get away without answering basic questions. >> like how much do you love israel, do you love it as much as i do. i'm in a republican primary in south carolina, that's why i keep hitting you. i know, i though. they're saying this is not techy a filibuster. really? >> we've got a conservative journalist in favor of of fracking on the show he tonight. >> these people are campaigning against fracking for natural gas. i'm a journalist and wanted to find out if they were telling the truth. what could possibly go wrong? excuse me, excuse me. >> do you think it's appropriate? >> we're watching him up against the the sierra club. come on. top of the morning to you. then bill ny the science guy talking about whether an asteroid is going to wipe us out. >> bill nye the science guy. >> the end of the earth? how's that for fun? don't worry we're not all going to die but, it is, what is that is this go time! ♪ theme ♪ cenk: welcome to "the young tu
we've got hagel on lockdown, the republicans filibustering chuck hagel. >> i'm going to hit you and keep hitting you absolutely. you're fought going to get away without answering basic questions. >> like how much do you love israel, do you love it as much as i do. i'm in a republican primary in south carolina, that's why i keep hitting you. i know, i though. they're saying this is not techy a filibuster. really? >> we've got a conservative journalist in favor of of fracking on...
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a week ago came to the senator's defense. >> senator hagel is an honorable man. he has served his country and no one on this committee at any time should impugn his character or his integrity. >> that's what cruz was doing. and john boehner couldn't stick to the script today for the softer, gentler, kinder gop. he told reporters at a breakfast briefing that obama doesn't have -- this is the new phrase. he doesn't have the guts to cut spending. today more republican intransigents are holding up again by demanding the speaker -- actually harry reid from nevada come up with 60 votes to move forward the vote. and senator rand paul put a hold on president obama's pick. joining me now is salon's joan walsh and washington post's dana milbank. they can't beat these people so they're doing this obstructing. they're trying to smear this guy. they know he's going to be secretary of defense. there is absolutely no purpose in what cruz is doing except trying to move he's more obnoxious than neocons are. they're just messing around with the government of the united states, i t
a week ago came to the senator's defense. >> senator hagel is an honorable man. he has served his country and no one on this committee at any time should impugn his character or his integrity. >> that's what cruz was doing. and john boehner couldn't stick to the script today for the softer, gentler, kinder gop. he told reporters at a breakfast briefing that obama doesn't have -- this is the new phrase. he doesn't have the guts to cut spending. today more republican intransigents are...
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a vote for hagel is delayed for at least another week. they're in recession next week and this whole thing could fall apart. this is the first time this has happened with a pentagon appointee in this process. senator john mccain is coming up after the vote on the implications. hours away from another deadline for the healthcare law. why scott brown doesn't like what he sees. see him next. hi. hi. i'm here to pick up some cacti. it should be under stephens. the verizon share everything plan for small business. get a shareable pool of data... got enough joshua trees? ... on up to 25 devices. so you can spend less time... yea, the golden barrels... managing wireless costs and technology and more time driving your business potential. looks like we're going to need to order more agaves... ah! oh! ow! ... and more bandages. that's powerful. sharble data plus unlimited talk and text. now save $50 on a droid razr maxx hd by motorola. as your life and career change, fidelity is there for your personal economy, helping you readjust your retirement
a vote for hagel is delayed for at least another week. they're in recession next week and this whole thing could fall apart. this is the first time this has happened with a pentagon appointee in this process. senator john mccain is coming up after the vote on the implications. hours away from another deadline for the healthcare law. why scott brown doesn't like what he sees. see him next. hi. hi. i'm here to pick up some cacti. it should be under stephens. the verizon share everything plan for...
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hours later, the senate confirmed hagel, 58-41. mainly along party lines. for more we turn to mark thompson, "time" magazine's national security reporter. welcome back to the program. so after all the storm and the fury from republicans, enough of them voted to let this confirmation takes place. what was this all about? >> basically it was on valentine's day that the senate would not let this proceed to an up-or-down vote. instead basically the republicans were looking for something to derail the nomination so for 12 days the nation waited essentially leon panetta was running over to nato and back to his walnut farm. we really didn't have a true secretary of defense other than this lame duck. today finally the republicans decided, hey, we've waited this long. we can't wait any longer. the president does deserve an up-or-down vote on his candidates so they let it proceed. >> woodruff: meantime they sent a message. >> yeah, i mean it is a disconcerting message. we had the republican and the democratic whips talking about vote counts but, you know, foreign nat
hours later, the senate confirmed hagel, 58-41. mainly along party lines. for more we turn to mark thompson, "time" magazine's national security reporter. welcome back to the program. so after all the storm and the fury from republicans, enough of them voted to let this confirmation takes place. what was this all about? >> basically it was on valentine's day that the senate would not let this proceed to an up-or-down vote. instead basically the republicans were looking for...
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we will follow both the sequestration and the hagel nomination. up next, the voice of the tea party. senator rand paul who gave his own response to the president's >> chris: this week he took on democrats and republicans in his tea party response to the president's state of the union address. here are with his critique of both parties is senator rand paul of kentucky. welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> good morning. >> chris: we will get to the president in a moment. let's start with the republicans. you say the sequester is fine, even the 40 plus billion dollars that the pentagon would take in military spending cuts. you just heard senator graham say no, it isn't fine that that would further jeopardize our national security. >>> well, ideally we would have done the right thing and that is pass appropriations bills and reduce spending where we think is fit. the sequester is sort of a hammer. it was requested by the president. it was his idea. signed into law by him. so i think it is disengine with us for him to go back on it. to put it in persp
we will follow both the sequestration and the hagel nomination. up next, the voice of the tea party. senator rand paul who gave his own response to the president's >> chris: this week he took on democrats and republicans in his tea party response to the president's state of the union address. here are with his critique of both parties is senator rand paul of kentucky. welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> good morning. >> chris: we will get to the president in a...
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cruz said hagel may have ties to iran? and could have taken money from countries like north korea. >> this committee knows absolutely nothing about the personal compensation chuck hagel received in 2008 and 2009 or 2010. it may be that he spoke at radical or extreme groups or anti-israel groups and accepted financial compensation. we don't know. it is at minimum relevant to know if that $200,000 that he deposited in his bank account came directly from saudi arabia, came directly from north korea. >> we should point out that there is absolutely no evidence supporting cruz's claims. florida senator bill nelson was not impressed with the texas senator cruz, and put the freshman senator in his place. >> i want to put on the record that this senator feels like that senator cruz has gone over the line. he basically has impugned the patriotism of the nominee. there is a certain degree of comity and civility that this committee has always been known for. to question, in essence, whether somebody is a fellow traveler with another c
cruz said hagel may have ties to iran? and could have taken money from countries like north korea. >> this committee knows absolutely nothing about the personal compensation chuck hagel received in 2008 and 2009 or 2010. it may be that he spoke at radical or extreme groups or anti-israel groups and accepted financial compensation. we don't know. it is at minimum relevant to know if that $200,000 that he deposited in his bank account came directly from saudi arabia, came directly from...
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we'll talk about sequestration and the hagel nomination. up next, the voice of the tea party, senator rand paul, who gave his own response to the president's state of the union speech. ♪ tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 is your old 401k just hanging around? tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 consider if rolling it over to a schwab ira tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 might let you get more out of it. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like earning a bonus of up to $600 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in a schwab ira tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and 150 commission-free online trades tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 plus our rollover consultants handle virtually tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 all the details tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 to help you focus on the bigger picture. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 so give us a call and get started today. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 see schwab.com/iraoffer for terms and conditions. watch this -- alakazam! ♪ [ male announcer ] staples has always made getting office supplies easy. ♪ another laptop? don't ask. disappear! abracadabra! alakazam! [ male announcer ] and now we're making it easier to get everything fo
we'll talk about sequestration and the hagel nomination. up next, the voice of the tea party, senator rand paul, who gave his own response to the president's state of the union speech. ♪ tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 is your old 401k just hanging around? tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 consider if rolling it over to a schwab ira tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 might let you get more out of it. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like earning a bonus of up to $600 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in a schwab ira tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and 150...
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senator lee bright is the problem for chuck hagel. he is the guy that is maybe going to give lindsey graham a primary chal epg, governor rendell. lindsay graham has been having meetings with the tea partiers, the club for growth. he is intent on solidifying the political base because he is worried about the next election, and if lindsey graham wasn't so worried, maybe there would be more bipartisanship in the upper chamber, and maybe all these legislative -- this kabuk eh dance would never happen brsh. >> that's a hard thinking to do anything about. we had a chance to do something about a procedure that is dysfunctional and basically flawed, and we democrats took a pass on it. i go back to that. we're responsible for this. as to glen's point, glen, i brae agree with you. this was an isolated incident. it's not that big a deal. it's playing out at the same time when you have the head of the nra absolutely delivering one of the most racial overtoned, insane -- >> screeds, i have seen. not one republican standing up and saying this guy i
senator lee bright is the problem for chuck hagel. he is the guy that is maybe going to give lindsey graham a primary chal epg, governor rendell. lindsay graham has been having meetings with the tea partiers, the club for growth. he is intent on solidifying the political base because he is worried about the next election, and if lindsey graham wasn't so worried, maybe there would be more bipartisanship in the upper chamber, and maybe all these legislative -- this kabuk eh dance would never...
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he was the biggest obstacle in the hagel hearing. and john kerry voted against the iraq surge too just like hagel did. what's the difference? >> it's not hagel's a republican or democrat, it shouldn't matter, he's the president's choice. this is not supposed to be a witch hunt, which is what republicans currently are making the nomination about. the problem is all of these nominations they're trying to basically make headlines over. and that's just fundamentally wrong. and i would advise republicans to remember, eventually they're going to get the white house back and they're not going to want to have this on the other side. they should treat all the nominees with the proper respect. they can question it and vote against them, but don't do this filibuster thing. >> is getting 60 votes in the senate going to be the standard moving forward? >> i don't think it will. you are seeing a movement to get away from that. they're not going to fundamentally filibuster, they're not going to stop chuck hagel. they're not going to block him, they'
he was the biggest obstacle in the hagel hearing. and john kerry voted against the iraq surge too just like hagel did. what's the difference? >> it's not hagel's a republican or democrat, it shouldn't matter, he's the president's choice. this is not supposed to be a witch hunt, which is what republicans currently are making the nomination about. the problem is all of these nominations they're trying to basically make headlines over. and that's just fundamentally wrong. and i would advise...
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but they are blocking chuck hagel. leon panetta has said his good-byes, had his going away ceremonies. but they are not letting him leave now. because they don't now how long republican senators are going to keep filibustering. nobody knows. we have no idea how long it will take. one of the reasons it seems not awesome to not have the leadership in place in our key national security jobs right now is because there is someone inside the u.s. government right now who is leaking things to the press to try to get us to go to war in syria. someone described as an obama administration official started a few weeks ago leaking information to the press that is clearly designed to make it seem like syria has crossed red lines that would require us to get involved in that war. the leaked information is designed to make it seem like syria is using chemical weapons. quote, the official warned if the u.s. does not react strongly to the use of chemical weapons in homes, assad may be emboldened. there is no real proof they're using ch
but they are blocking chuck hagel. leon panetta has said his good-byes, had his going away ceremonies. but they are not letting him leave now. because they don't now how long republican senators are going to keep filibustering. nobody knows. we have no idea how long it will take. one of the reasons it seems not awesome to not have the leadership in place in our key national security jobs right now is because there is someone inside the u.s. government right now who is leaking things to the...
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mike emanuel on what is holding up chuck hagel. >> they successfully delayed chuck hagel's controversial nomination as secretary of defense. late today, procedural vote failed after senator john mccain had made the case for waiting until after next week's recess. >> i think that is a sufficient period of time to get answers to outstanding questions and i think that senator hagel after that period of time deserves a cloture vote and a uvote on his. >> i have valued your thoughts and your contributions. i think most all of us in public office feel that way. >> among questions, speeches like to one in june 13, 2008, before the arab american antidiscrimination committee that hagel did not disclose to armed services committee. earlier they blasted republicans for holding up hagel's nomination to lead the pentagon. >> it's shocking that my republican colleagues would leave the nation would a fully empowered secretary of defense. during all the things we have going on in the world, including a war. >> but panetta isn't leaving yet. and 60-vote requirement is not unusual, say republicans and rei
mike emanuel on what is holding up chuck hagel. >> they successfully delayed chuck hagel's controversial nomination as secretary of defense. late today, procedural vote failed after senator john mccain had made the case for waiting until after next week's recess. >> i think that is a sufficient period of time to get answers to outstanding questions and i think that senator hagel after that period of time deserves a cloture vote and a uvote on his. >> i have valued your...
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hagel is at the center of it, but it's about much more than just chuck hagel. andrea. >> let me just interject also, kelly, that there is an issue here. the defense ministers meet at nato next week in brussels. they want chuck hagel, the administration wants chuck hagel, the new defense secretary to be leading this going forward. they don't want to have to ask leon panetta, who is still the defense secretary, to go and lead the delegation as a lame-duck. chris, this gets to entrance, and that's why, among other reasons, the white house is so frustrated, and those who have been raising these benghazi issues are really holding the white house hostage on when did the president call and was he up all night? those are the kinds of questions they've been asking. hagel had nothing to do with benghazi. >> absolutely true, andrea, but i would say, look, this is -- kelly used the phrase leverage point, and whether you like it or not, that's what republicans view this as. i would say that the white house has two very clear choices. they either say okay, we will give until
hagel is at the center of it, but it's about much more than just chuck hagel. andrea. >> let me just interject also, kelly, that there is an issue here. the defense ministers meet at nato next week in brussels. they want chuck hagel, the administration wants chuck hagel, the new defense secretary to be leading this going forward. they don't want to have to ask leon panetta, who is still the defense secretary, to go and lead the delegation as a lame-duck. chris, this gets to entrance, and...